Überpossum at 2009-06-30 11:42:44:
Great stuff and very timely for me. My protagonist, in the script that I'm currently working on, is undergoing a shift and it's been a little tricky to work with.
Michael Rivers at 2009-06-30 11:58:07:
Great information. Using "The Silence of the Lambs" to demonstrate your "Narrative Throughline" is great. This made me think a lot about my own project!
Alissa at 2009-06-30 12:06:06:
I think Legally Blonde is a good example. Elle Woods heads to law school because she wants to get her boyfriend back, but by the end of the movie her goal has shifted and she finds herself pursuing a legal career and no longer has any interest in the shallow boyfriend.
Scott at 2009-06-30 12:23:27:
Alissa, Legally Blonde is a perfect example.
Michael J. Hultquist at 2009-06-30 14:30:44:
Great post, Scott. I find stories more satisfying when the writer stops to really develop that inner need, and we've been focusing on that in the last few scripts we've worked on. We're developing thrillers, all with an external need of "vengeance", but in building on the internal needs (not only of the Protagonist but the Antagonist as well), the stories go that much deeper and resonate when they're over. This usually comes out in later drafts as we work through.
Scott at 2009-06-30 15:03:44:
Mike, you make a good point. Consider Die Hard, arguably the paradigmatic action movie of the last 20+ years, spawning "Die Hard in an airplane" (Air Force One), "Die Hard on a Navy ship" (Under Siege), etc. The movie goes through considerable effort to establish the conflict between John McClane (Bruce Willis) and his wife Holly (Bonnie Bedalia) from whom he is separated. So yes, there's all this stuff going on in the Plotline involving Hans Gruber holding all the people in the office hostage, the operation to steal the goods, the negotiations with the cops / FBI, and McClane as the Lone Cowboy screwing with the Bad Guys. But there is this other stuff going on where McClane and Holly realize how life is a tenuous thing, they may never see each other again, capped off with McClane's "I love my wife" monologue over the walkie talkie.

Is the relationship between McClane and Holly the main point of focus in the movie? No. But it provides an emotional touchstone for the movie, and when they get together at the end, and Holly calls herself "Holly McClane," reclaiming her married moniker, it provides a nice end point to their mutual transformations.

So even in action movies, there can be some measure of change (emotional / psychological) in the primary characters.
Kiwichick at 2009-06-30 15:11:43:
The Professional. Leon wants to be left alone. Needs to care for someone. And be cared for.

In Bruges. Colin Farrel wants safety for life (initially). Needs redemption/forgiveness.
James at 2009-06-30 19:12:13:
Star Wars --

"I want to be a Jedi, like my father."

That's why the reveal at the end of Empire Strikes back is so poignant.

Holy shit -- my father is fucking evil! It's a conflict on all levels.
H at 2009-07-01 11:27:57:
Scott,

In the setup in CHINATOWN, Jake tells his client that the only way you can get away with murder is if your rich.

He wants to figure out who set him up, gets caught into thinking "this time will be different" and the rich guy/town arent going to get away with murder.

The cop at the end tells him to forget about it, its chinatown.

So he needs to let it go. He was right when he said the thing about rich people but let himself fall into a state of denial.

Is this how you see want/need in this film?
Scott at 2009-07-01 12:27:57:
H, I've never used the want/need lens on Chinatown. I tended to look at Jake's arc as a 'negative' one -- he starts out thinking he has the world pretty much figured, a cynic whose created a niche that not only allows him to make a living - albeit on the broken lives of his customers - but also, through what he sees everyday in his job, reinforces his cynicism.

But then, he gets lured into actually caring about someone (Evelyn Mulwray played by Faye Dunaway) which eventually leads, as you point out, back toward his original cynicism, probably even worse off because of his experiences.

So with that as the framework, let's ask what does Jake want? To solve the case. What does he need? It's not totally clear, but certainly it has something to do with Evelyn and her daughter - perhaps to do something right by this mother and daughter.

Of course, when Evelyn is killed, it crushes something in Jake, the little flicker of humanity that may have been burning a bit brighter over the course of this case now dimmed. The Powers That Be in LA, they control things here. There's nothing we can do about it. Jake the Cynic should know this. He thought he did, but had to go through all this stuff to have that cynicism driven even deeper into his soul. Hence the 'negative' transformation. Jake's Unity state is him accepting his cynicism, the way things are in the world, the control of The Powers That Be.

BTW, I use the phrase The Powers That Be in reference to David Halberstam's great book of that name. The section on the history of LA is eye-opening. Chinatown and Who Framed Roger Rabbit have treated LA's overlords and their greedy actions quite well.