Actually, there's another part of the Dark Knight that has always struck me as a bit of a plot hole: Gordon is apparently killed during an assassination attempt on the mayor. Later, we find out Gordon's death was actually faked to protect his family while he helped bring in the Joker. So my issue is: When was this plan made? Bruce only learns about the assassination attempt moments before it happens when he finds the police protection detail tied up. So Gordon and Batman couldn't have possibly made the plan in advance of the attack because they didn't know it was coming. That means they had to make it after Gordon was fake-assassinated. But how would that work? Did Gordon just improvise falling to the ground and pretend to be shot hoping no one would notice he was alive and that Batman would somehow figure out he was faking and come find him so they could make a plan that would use said fake death to help capture the Joker? And did that improbable chain of events somehow actually happen? If not... What did? Who made the plan? When did they make it? How did it work? Maybe I missed something.

I don't normally spot plot holes in good movies, but I did spot this one. Maybe because the transition from the party sequence to the next scene is so abrupt - time has passed, but we're not sure how much, people are suddenly somewhere else...

"HANGOVER" - The missing groom, who’s a McGuffin, sleeps on the roof for 2 days while all of his buddies have been at high rpm all over Vegas? "LIAR, LIAR" – the secretary that Jim’s character abuses suddenly finds salvation and bails him out of jail?

Here's my position on TDK. Its primary virtues to me were the look of the film, the atmosphere, and Heath Ledger's performance. I was entranced by these aspects, and wound up seeing the film three times. And almost like being in a friendship or romance, I learned to live with its defects, which includes massive plot holes such as the ones referenced above, philosophical pretension, and very hit-and-miss action sequences. So after the first time, these things didn't bother me. I think my biggest WTF moment in recent years wasn't a plot hole as such, but a scene with totally unbelievable behavior by one character. In WAR OF THE WORLDS, somewhere in the middle Tom Cruise's son decides to go off to fight aliens and leave his father and little sister. He tells his dad "You have to let me go!" I think Spielberg fell too much in love with the subtext of the relationship, and so had it manifested in this pretty awfully conceived and executed moment - there was simply no sane motivation for that character to abandon the rest of his family in that situation.

I noticed this too and I'm not sure but I think I remember hearing something about how that had to get cut for budget reasons or editing reasons. Anyways, I'm not too sure. So instead, I went back into the script and looked up the scene. This is what I found (sorry if it doesn't format correctly) INT. TAXI -- CONTINUOUS The DRIVER SCREAMS as Batman and Rachel hit the roof- ROLL down the windshield- onto the pavement. Alive. INT. CAR -- CONTINUOUS The Joker looks back as his car SPEEDS away. He's breathing hard, EXHILARATED. He touches the blood running down his sweaty white makeup. SMACKS the back of the driver's seat- DRIVER What do we do about Dent? THE JOKER I'm a man of my word. There's a nice little thing about the Joker leaving. Then again, one would have to question how the Joker got out of the building faster than Batman who literally fell out of it...but I won't try and be too nosy :).

Wow that turned out terrible, trying it again: INT. TAXI -- CONTINUOUS The DRIVER SCREAMS as Batman and Rachel hit the roof- ROLL down the windshield- onto the pavement. Alive. INT. CAR -- CONTINUOUS The Joker looks back as his car SPEEDS away. He's breathing hard, EXHILARATED. He touches the blood running down his sweaty white makeup. SMACKS the back of the driver's seat- DRIVER What do we do about Dent? THE JOKER I'm a man of my word.

The Dark Knight has several plot holes and other lapses in logic. My biggest problem has to do with the 1) explosion in the police station. It incapacitates EVERYONE except The Joker who is completely unscathed. Talk about a smart bomb. Part of the problem is that it is the payoff for a long convoluted chain of previous plants. If you're going through that much trouble, it really should be a more full-proof plan than, "I hope it doesn't blow me up." For instance, the long convoluted chain of bank robbers killing each other actually makes sense. The payoff is that he alone gets the money (and no witnesses, but I don't think that was a factor in The Joker's decision). And it's essentially a guarantee if everything goes to plan. The bomb -- just reeks of laziness. What is worse is that the plan also depends on what is probably the worst scene in the movie -- 2) The Joker baiting a guy to fight him so he can get the upper hand and walk out of the interrogation room with a hostage. What's terrible about this scene is not only is there no subtext, the idiot guard actually KNOWS this is exactly what The Joker is doing and even says so! -- and falls for it anyway. What's insulting is that the filmmakers don't even let us SEE how The Joker got the upper hand on him. Essentially, the filmmakers have made it so clear that this guy is a huge dumbass that they don't even feel the need to explain how The Joker after being pummelled by Batman manages to get the upper hand on a much larger dumbass cop. This rings of contrivance. And is paid off by a bomb that obliterates everything but The Joker -- double contrivance. As I've stated before, I can put this aside. It's not a huge deal. Doesn't ruin the movie for me, but it did give me pause. 3) I also noticed the Batman / Maggie Gyllenhaal thing. But it didn't even occur to most of my friends. So I think that works. Another logic / tension gap is the 4) final fall. It looks like a much shorter drop than the fall Batman took out the window with Maggie. Yet, the scene is played like -- Is Batman dead? Of course he's not! We already saw him take a fall from much higher up. The suspense was robbed by a previous scene with redundant action and result.

I pointed out this plot hole to a group of geeks in comic shop right after the movie came out. I was almost crucified.

That scene bothered me, because when he jumped after her, I thought, "Now what is he going to do about the Joker!" But I forgot that thought again shortly.

And that Superman time-reversal bugged me BIG time. Completely ruined the movie for me in that moment.

I noticed this immediately. Why? Because I thought it could've been a great moment. Batman chooses to save his girlfriend over everyone else. And when he comes back, they're all dead because of his choice to save her. That would've been very dark, but would've felt in character for the Joker and pushed TDK even further.

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